Nicole’s guest today is podcast royalty, a Podcasting Hall of Famer, Corporate Speaker & Comic and the Co-Founder of “She Podcasts” which started as a Facebook group and is now the largest podcast platform in the world. She’s been Featured in “Forbes” & “Entrepreneur” as a visionary for women and non-binary people in the podcasting world.

Nicole met Jessica Kupferman at “PODFEST”–a big podcasters convention in Florida a couple of years ago. Nicole was attending one of her sessions and was struck by her honesty about the challenges she was still experiencing years after her daughter’s fatal overdose. As a therapist Nicole is always thinking about how we survive the unthinkable. What are the qualities that keep some of us persevering while others can’t? The combination of her enormous drive and success and her ability to endure the unthinkable made her want to talk more in depth. Jessica reflects on what got her through her daughter’s death and how her successful Substack gives her an opportunity to bring humor to any situation. Find out more at JessicaKupferman.com.